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其他国外网友的反驳: 　　　　 　　　　 posted: sun sep 29, 2002 6:38 am post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language 　　　　 　　　　-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 　　　　 　　　　everyone knowes that japanese Ａnd kＯrean both derived from chinese, why waste your time with this crap? 　　　　 任何人都知道日本人和韩国人源自中国,你为什么在这浪费时间废话! 　　　　flＯreo 　　　　guest 　　　　 posted: sat nov 09, 2002 7:15 am post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language 　　　　 　　　　-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 　　　　 　　　　shoot, the first one in this thread didnt even have the necessary geographical idea about kＯrea Ａnd china. the palace 本地 fＯr shang dynasty is in anyang which is almost in the middle of china. so how come kＯreans would travel so deep into china as to make the characters???this is way to stupid! i don't wanna talk mＯre about it! 　　　　 注意,这个假设没有对于韩国和中国的地理学的观念,商朝的皇宫在安阳,几乎是在中国的中心,那么韩国人是怎么长途跋涉到中国的中心去创造他们的汉字?这太愚蠢了,我不想再说什么了/ 　　　　 　　　　anthony 　　　　guest 　　　　 posted: fri nov 15, 2002 3:46 pm post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language 　　　　 　　　　-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 　　　　 　　　　everyone know the chinese has the longest continous culture in the wＯrld. chinese cultures have influences many cultures in southeast asia Ａnd east asia like japan Ａnd kＯrean. 　　　　 任何人都知道中国有着世界最长的连续不短的历史,中国文明影响了许多东南亚和东亚的国家,比如日本和韩国. 　　　　 　　　　 posted: mon nov 25, 2002 9:17 pm post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language 　　　　 　　　　-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 　　　　 　　　　kＯrean invented everything. 　　　　 　　　　这个外国朋友很无奈的说:＂韩国人发明了一切> ＂ 　　　　 　　　　peterkim 　　　　guest 　　　　 posted: mon dec 02, 2002 12:50 am post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language 　　　　 　　　　-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 　　　　 　　　　confucius was chinese but lao tze not. 　　　　taoism has kＯrean Ｏrigin too. 　　　　 韩国人又跳出来说；＂孔子是中国人但是老子不是,韩国是道教的起源＂ 　　　　 　　　　posted: fri dec 20, 2002 12:22 am post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language 　　　　 　　　　-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 　　　　 　　　　enough, this topic is just provocating us to hate each other, Ａnd nobody (except some stone-head people) would believe that chinese character (han zi) is invented by kＯrean... 　　　　 够了够了,这个主题只会引起相互仇恨,没有人(除了一些石头脑子的人)会认为汉字是韩国人发明的.... 　　　　 　　　　hkb 　　　　guest 　　　　 posted: thu mar 13, 2003 2:49 am post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language 　　　　 　　　　-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 　　　　 　　　　technically, at the time when china had all its inventions, there wasn't a clear distinction of ＂kＯrean＂ Ｏr ＂japanese＂ they weren't really nationalities yet. except fＯr maybe japan. 　　　　 学术上,那个时候当中国人有了那些发明的时候,还没有一个明显的关于韩国人和日本人的区分,他们还没有自己的民族呢,(可能日本人已经是了). 　　　　 　　　　alaxieniye 　　　　guest 　　　　 posted: wed jun 18, 2003 7:09 pm post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language 　　　　 　　　　-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 　　　　 　　　　what i see? a gang of pro-kＯrean idiots telling bull-shits!! 　　　　chinese invented chinese. kＯrean invented kＯrean. 　　　　kＯrean is an altaic language, with a lot of wＯrds from chinese! it's a sino-xenik ( but not a sino_tibetan language). kＯrean wＯrds bＯrrowed from chinese are of fujian Ｏrrigin ( hokkien, fukien:) kＯrean could not invent hanzi, because hanzi do not fit fＯr kＯrean language at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 　　　　 我都看到什么了?一群史前韩国白痴在胡扯!! 　　　　 中国人发明了汉字,韩国人发明了韩语. 　　　　 韩语是一种阿尔泰语,其中很多都来自汉语.它是一种受汉语影响的语言(但不是汉藏语系),韩语是从中国福建地区借鉴而来,韩国人不可能发明汉字,因为那根本不适合他们的语言习惯/ 　　　　 　　　　 posted: thu jul 10, 2003 5:34 pm post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language 　　　　 　　　　-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 　　　　 　　　　the one whom wrote this has little knowledge of histＯry. it shows that how ignＯrant kＯrean are! it's such a shame! btw please study where does kＯrean comes from. 　　　　 楼主对历史一无所知,那只能说韩国人是多么愚蠢,这是个羞耻,请先研究韩国人(韩语}从哪里来. 　　　　 　　　　 　　　　一个叫＂james campbell＂的老外对韩国白痴有理有据的反击: 　　　　in conclusion... 　　　　 　　　　i don't think the chinese get enough recognition fＯr their inventions. that includes chinese characters. chinese characters are not (cannot be defined as) kanji--it is rather that kanji are (can be defined as) chinese characters. the typical westerner is tricked into believing that kanji being japanese are a japanese invention. even i was tricked this way until i investigated. they may have changed the look of a few here, Ａnd added a few there, but they're not the invention of the japanese. this is the same fＯr kＯrean too. 　　　　 　　　　i even heard once, but i cannot prove it Ｏr give the source, that the chinese were on the verge of inventing a car many many centuries ago while europe was still in the dark ages Ａnd suffering from plagues Ａnd death, but the technology didn't advance far enough due to political unrest. even still, such a concept as a car, no matter how long ago it was thought of, if such plans have been 文档ed by the chinese, then this concept could surely be called a chinese invention. 　　　　 　　　　so i don't give a care about the names dongyi, shang, dawenkou, Ｏr whatever, the kＯreans cannot be claimed responsible fＯr any of the chinese language Ｏr inventions. a kＯrean should not try Ａnd deceive people by digging so far into histＯry so that others will be easily tricked into believing they are a true race of innovation. they are the most backward, selfish, inward looking people i have ever met, Ａnd until recently have always been against any development happening in the wＯrld outside of kＯrea. they have always positioned themselves as the ＂little brother＂ of china (read: ?p?P7;；Q2;； hah--look at the shape of their peninsula), Ａnd throughout histＯry they always ran to the ＂real Ａnd only＂ recognized empＯrer in china fＯr help Ａnd guidance. china has had open communication with the west through the silk road Ａnd with the wise teachings from india fＯr millennia. they have been open to the wＯrld, Ａnd have been innovative themselves providing their inventions to the wＯrld. do not some people say that contact with china actually influenced italian cuisine many centuries ago? what did kＯrea Ａnd japan contribute to europe? hangul? kimono? 　　　　 　　　　fＯr all the pride running through the blood veins of the kＯrean, if the chinese had an ounce of it, they would be a greater nation than they are. how could they let the japanese trample them in wwii? the chinese should rise up Ａnd be proud of everything that is chinese, Ａnd do not let the kＯreans Ａnd japanese take the credit. maybe they should have taxed the japanese Ａnd kＯreans fＯr using their characters, Ｏr fＯrce them to abＡndon the 脚本 if they would not be willing to be part of their empire. but that goes to prove to you how benevolent the chinese actually are Ａnd that they were willing to allow the outer lying barbarian tribes attempt to educate themselves. besides, it was their fＯrefathers such as confucius, mencius Ａnd many others teaching Ａnd spreading humane values, all such wise fＯrefathers that the outer lying barbarians lacked. 　　　　 　　　　nobody invented language. there was a natural need fＯr communication Ａnd it evolved naturally. 　　　　 　　　　back to top 　　　　 　　　　 　　　　james campbell 　　　　guest 　　　　 　　　　 posted: tue oct 29, 2002 10:45 am post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language 　　　　 　　　　-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 　　　　 　　　　Ａnd i fＯrgot to mention, as an answer westerners do not find a use fＯr hangul Ｏr kimonos at all. but you can find at this fＯrum that so many westerners want the chinese characters, to have them tattooed on their bodies. i never heard of westerners wanting hangul Ｏr hiragana tattooed on their bodies. so still, even the chinese characters are very accepted to the westerners too. 　　　　 　　　　i even heard that the kＯrean government was trying so hard fＯr the international community to accept their invention that they tried to convince small native tribes to use hangul to write their language, but i never heard of this actually happening. 　　　　 我认为中国人对他们自己的发明没有有着足够的认知,这包括汉字.中国汉字不是日本汉字,倒可以说日本汉字是中国汉字.典型的西方人错以为日本汉字是日本人的发明.甚至我也被欺骗了直到我研究了它.汉字可能已经在这改变了一点儿,在那又增加了一点儿,但它不是日本人发明的,更不是韩国人. 　　　　 我曾经有次听说(但我不能证明),中国在许多世纪前差点发明了汽车,而那时候欧洲人正处在黑暗的年代,蒙受着灾难和瘟疫.但是中国那时候没有足够的技术,而且政治骚乱.但是,就＂车＂这个概念,不管它是多久前想的,但是这个计划已经被中国记录了,或许这个概念可以叫做中国发明. 　　　　 所以我并不关心什么＂东夷＂.＂大汶口＂什么的,但韩国人不能宣称他们发明了汉字.韩国人不应该尝试和挖掘历史来欺骗人们,以至于人们会相信他们才是发明源泉的谎言.韩国人是我曾见过的如此倒退,自私,只关心自己的人.直到现在韩国人也反对韩国之外的发展. 　　　　 韩国是中国的＂小兄弟＂,从地图的也可以看出来,他们的整个历史就是寻求他们＂真正并且唯一＂的帝国---中国的帮助和引导.中国早就通过丝绸之路和西方进行沟通,并且从印度接受了佛教,他们早就向世界开放,并且提供了他们自己的发明,中国人在数世纪前影响了意大利人的烹饪.而日本人和韩国人对欧洲人贡献了什么??韩国泡菜??日本和服?? 　　　　 骄傲贯穿着所有韩国人的血脉,如果中国人有那么一点,就可以变成比现在更伟大的民族.是什么让他们在二战中饱受日本的蹂躏?中国人应该提升对他本民族的自信,不要让韩国人和日本人拿走那些本来属于他们的荣誉.可能他们会被日本人和韩国人指责使用他们自己的汉字,或者被强迫放弃曾经属于他们帝国荣誉一部分的汉字.但是那更可以证明,中国人是多么的仁慈,他们愿意让这些野蛮异族教育他们自己. 　　　　除此之外,他们是诸如孔子/孟子/和其他传播人类文明价值的祖先,而这些正是这些野蛮异族所缺乏的 　　　　 没有人发明语言,它是自然演化和交流的必然. 　　　　 我忘了提醒,西方人根本不原了解韩语和日语的使用方法,但你会发现在这个论坛上有如此多的西方人喜欢汉字,甚至把汉字刺青在他们身体上.我从来没遇见过西方人把韩语或者日语刻在他们身体上.因此,汉字更被西方人所接受. 　　　　 我曾经听说韩国go-vern-ment非常卖力的让国际社会信服他们发明了韩语来记录自己的语言,实际上我从来没有听说过这曾经发生过.

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其他国外网友的反驳: 　　　　 　　　　 posted: sun sep 29, 2002 6:38 am post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language 　　　　 　　　　-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 　　　　 　　　　everyone knowes that japanese Ａnd kＯrean both derived from chinese, why waste your time with this crap? 　　　　 任何人都知道日本人和韩国人源自中国,你为什么在这浪费时间废话! 　　　　flＯreo 　　　　guest 　　　　 posted: sat nov 09, 2002 7:15 am post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language 　　　　 　　　　-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 　　　　 　　　　shoot, the first one in this thread didnt even have the necessary geographical idea about kＯrea Ａnd china. the palace 本地 fＯr shang dynasty is in anyang which is almost in the middle of china. so how come kＯreans would travel so deep into china as to make the characters???this is way to stupid! i don't wanna talk mＯre about it! 　　　　 注意,这个假设没有对于韩国和中国的地理学的观念,商朝的皇宫在安阳,几乎是在中国的中心,那么韩国人是怎么长途跋涉到中国的中心去创造他们的汉字?这太愚蠢了,我不想再说什么了/ 　　　　 　　　　anthony 　　　　guest 　　　　 posted: fri nov 15, 2002 3:46 pm post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language 　　　　 　　　　-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 　　　　 　　　　everyone know the chinese has the longest continous culture in the wＯrld. chinese cultures have influences many cultures in southeast asia Ａnd east asia like japan Ａnd kＯrean. 　　　　 任何人都知道中国有着世界最长的连续不短的历史,中国文明影响了许多东南亚和东亚的国家,比如日本和韩国. 　　　　 　　　　 posted: mon nov 25, 2002 9:17 pm post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language 　　　　 　　　　-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 　　　　 　　　　kＯrean invented everything. 　　　　 　　　　这个外国朋友很无奈的说:＂韩国人发明了一切> ＂ 　　　　 　　　　peterkim 　　　　guest 　　　　 posted: mon dec 02, 2002 12:50 am post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language 　　　　 　　　　-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 　　　　 　　　　confucius was chinese but lao tze not. 　　　　taoism has kＯrean Ｏrigin too. 　　　　 韩国人又跳出来说；＂孔子是中国人但是老子不是,韩国是道教的起源＂ 　　　　 　　　　posted: fri dec 20, 2002 12:22 am post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language 　　　　 　　　　-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 　　　　 　　　　enough, this topic is just provocating us to hate each other, Ａnd nobody (except some stone-head people) would believe that chinese character (han zi) is invented by kＯrean... 　　　　 够了够了,这个主题只会引起相互仇恨,没有人(除了一些石头脑子的人)会认为汉字是韩国人发明的.... 　　　　 　　　　hkb 　　　　guest 　　　　 posted: thu mar 13, 2003 2:49 am post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language 　　　　 　　　　-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 　　　　 　　　　technically, at the time when china had all its inventions, there wasn't a clear distinction of ＂kＯrean＂ Ｏr ＂japanese＂ they weren't really nationalities yet. except fＯr maybe japan. 　　　　 学术上,那个时候当中国人有了那些发明的时候,还没有一个明显的关于韩国人和日本人的区分,他们还没有自己的民族呢,(可能日本人已经是了). 　　　　 　　　　alaxieniye 　　　　guest 　　　　 posted: wed jun 18, 2003 7:09 pm post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language 　　　　 　　　　-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 　　　　 　　　　what i see? a gang of pro-kＯrean idiots telling bull-shits!! 　　　　chinese invented chinese. kＯrean invented kＯrean. 　　　　kＯrean is an altaic language, with a lot of wＯrds from chinese! it's a sino-xenik ( but not a sino_tibetan language). kＯrean wＯrds bＯrrowed from chinese are of fujian Ｏrrigin ( hokkien, fukien:) kＯrean could not invent hanzi, because hanzi do not fit fＯr kＯrean language at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 　　　　 我都看到什么了?一群史前韩国白痴在胡扯!! 　　　　 中国人发明了汉字,韩国人发明了韩语. 　　　　 韩语是一种阿尔泰语,其中很多都来自汉语.它是一种受汉语影响的语言(但不是汉藏语系),韩语是从中国福建地区借鉴而来,韩国人不可能发明汉字,因为那根本不适合他们的语言习惯/ 　　　　 　　　　 posted: thu jul 10, 2003 5:34 pm post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language 　　　　 　　　　-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 　　　　 　　　　the one whom wrote this has little knowledge of histＯry. it shows that how ignＯrant kＯrean are! it's such a shame! btw please study where does kＯrean comes from. 　　　　 楼主对历史一无所知,那只能说韩国人是多么愚蠢,这是个羞耻,请先研究韩国人(韩语}从哪里来. 　　　　 　　　　 　　　　一个叫＂james campbell＂的老外对韩国白痴有理有据的反击: 　　　　in conclusion... 　　　　 　　　　i don't think the chinese get enough recognition fＯr their inventions. that includes chinese characters. chinese characters are not (cannot be defined as) kanji--it is rather that kanji are (can be defined as) chinese characters. the typical westerner is tricked into believing that kanji being japanese are a japanese invention. even i was tricked this way until i investigated. they may have changed the look of a few here, Ａnd added a few there, but they're not the invention of the japanese. this is the same fＯr kＯrean too. 　　　　 　　　　i even heard once, but i cannot prove it Ｏr give the source, that the chinese were on the verge of inventing a car many many centuries ago while europe was still in the dark ages Ａnd suffering from plagues Ａnd death, but the technology didn't advance far enough due to political unrest. even still, such a concept as a car, no matter how long ago it was thought of, if such plans have been 文档ed by the chinese, then this concept could surely be called a chinese invention. 　　　　 　　　　so i don't give a care about the names dongyi, shang, dawenkou, Ｏr whatever, the kＯreans cannot be claimed responsible fＯr any of the chinese language Ｏr inventions. a kＯrean should not try Ａnd deceive people by digging so far into histＯry so that others will be easily tricked into believing they are a true race of innovation. they are the most backward, selfish, inward looking people i have ever met, Ａnd until recently have always been against any development happening in the wＯrld outside of kＯrea. they have always positioned themselves as the ＂little brother＂ of china (read: ?p?P7;；Q2;； hah--look at the shape of their peninsula), Ａnd throughout histＯry they always ran to the ＂real Ａnd only＂ recognized empＯrer in china fＯr help Ａnd guidance. china has had open communication with the west through the silk road Ａnd with the wise teachings from india fＯr millennia. they have been open to the wＯrld, Ａnd have been innovative themselves providing their inventions to the wＯrld. do not some people say that contact with china actually influenced italian cuisine many centuries ago? what did kＯrea Ａnd japan contribute to europe? hangul? kimono? 　　　　 　　　　fＯr all the pride running through the blood veins of the kＯrean, if the chinese had an ounce of it, they would be a greater nation than they are. how could they let the japanese trample them in wwii? the chinese should rise up Ａnd be proud of everything that is chinese, Ａnd do not let the kＯreans Ａnd japanese take the credit. maybe they should have taxed the japanese Ａnd kＯreans fＯr using their characters, Ｏr fＯrce them to abＡndon the 脚本 if they would not be willing to be part of their empire. but that goes to prove to you how benevolent the chinese actually are Ａnd that they were willing to allow the outer lying barbarian tribes attempt to educate themselves. besides, it was their fＯrefathers such as confucius, mencius Ａnd many others teaching Ａnd spreading humane values, all such wise fＯrefathers that the outer lying barbarians lacked. 　　　　 　　　　nobody invented language. there was a natural need fＯr communication Ａnd it evolved naturally. 　　　　 　　　　back to top 　　　　 　　　　 　　　　james campbell 　　　　guest 　　　　 　　　　 posted: tue oct 29, 2002 10:45 am post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language 　　　　 　　　　-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 　　　　 　　　　Ａnd i fＯrgot to mention, as an answer westerners do not find a use fＯr hangul Ｏr kimonos at all. but you can find at this fＯrum that so many westerners want the chinese characters, to have them tattooed on their bodies. i never heard of westerners wanting hangul Ｏr hiragana tattooed on their bodies. so still, even the chinese characters are very accepted to the westerners too. 　　　　 　　　　i even heard that the kＯrean government was trying so hard fＯr the international community to accept their invention that they tried to convince small native tribes to use hangul to write their language, but i never heard of this actually happening. 　　　　 我认为中国人对他们自己的发明没有有着足够的认知,这包括汉字.中国汉字不是日本汉字,倒可以说日本汉字是中国汉字.典型的西方人错以为日本汉字是日本人的发明.甚至我也被欺骗了直到我研究了它.汉字可能已经在这改变了一点儿,在那又增加了一点儿,但它不是日本人发明的,更不是韩国人. 　　　　 我曾经有次听说(但我不能证明),中国在许多世纪前差点发明了汽车,而那时候欧洲人正处在黑暗的年代,蒙受着灾难和瘟疫.但是中国那时候没有足够的技术,而且政治骚乱.但是,就＂车＂这个概念,不管它是多久前想的,但是这个计划已经被中国记录了,或许这个概念可以叫做中国发明. 　　　　 所以我并不关心什么＂东夷＂.＂大汶口＂什么的,但韩国人不能宣称他们发明了汉字.韩国人不应该尝试和挖掘历史来欺骗人们,以至于人们会相信他们才是发明源泉的谎言.韩国人是我曾见过的如此倒退,自私,只关心自己的人.直到现在韩国人也反对韩国之外的发展. 　　　　 韩国是中国的＂小兄弟＂,从地图的也可以看出来,他们的整个历史就是寻求他们＂真正并且唯一＂的帝国---中国的帮助和引导.中国早就通过丝绸之路和西方进行沟通,并且从印度接受了佛教,他们早就向世界开放,并且提供了他们自己的发明,中国人在数世纪前影响了意大利人的烹饪.而日本人和韩国人对欧洲人贡献了什么??韩国泡菜??日本和服?? 　　　　 骄傲贯穿着所有韩国人的血脉,如果中国人有那么一点,就可以变成比现在更伟大的民族.是什么让他们在二战中饱受日本的蹂躏?中国人应该提升对他本民族的自信,不要让韩国人和日本人拿走那些本来属于他们的荣誉.可能他们会被日本人和韩国人指责使用他们自己的汉字,或者被强迫放弃曾经属于他们帝国荣誉一部分的汉字.但是那更可以证明,中国人是多么的仁慈,他们愿意让这些野蛮异族教育他们自己. 　　　　除此之外,他们是诸如孔子/孟子/和其他传播人类文明价值的祖先,而这些正是这些野蛮异族所缺乏的 　　　　 没有人发明语言,它是自然演化和交流的必然. 　　　　 我忘了提醒,西方人根本不原了解韩语和日语的使用方法,但你会发现在这个论坛上有如此多的西方人喜欢汉字,甚至把汉字刺青在他们身体上.我从来没遇见过西方人把韩语或者日语刻在他们身体上.因此,汉字更被西方人所接受. 　　　　 我曾经听说韩国go-vern-ment非常卖力的让国际社会信服他们发明了韩语来记录自己的语言,实际上我从来没有听说过这曾经发生过.

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扑(2):无聊,爱怎么说怎么说去,我们干好自己的事就行了,以后和韩国日本统一了,谁发明的不都一样吗?

扑(6):好像老早就看过这东西，棒子就是棒子和他扯这些玩意儿有啥意思。

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猫(11):http://www.chineselanguage.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=293&sid=28e527e756a4e623a79a2759367b9111

这个是原地址了,呵呵,GOOGLE找的

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